ROUGHLY EDITED COPY CUENet AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION DOGMATICS 2 LESSON 9 Captioning Provided By: Caption First, Inc. 10 E. 22nd Street Suite 304 Lombard, IL 60148 800-825-5234 *** This text is being provided in a rough draft format. Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. *** >> A question just occurred to me. I'm not sure if it is an important question. But I do want to ask it just in case it is. The New Testament speaks of Jesus Christ which is the commonly used phrase now. It also speaks of Christ Jesus. Which is the preferred way of speaking? Which is older? Is it important? >> DR. DAVID SCAER: Before we answer the question, Josh, of whether this is important, I think all of us have been in situations where people have used the name in vain and they say Jesus Christ. I've always been tempted to correct the situation. But fearing for my own life, I never have. I want to say, "The correct form really is Christ Jesus." But my own personal safety comes first. But it kind of demonstrates which is the older phrase. Because Christ is the title and Jesus is the name that this particular man from Nazareth had. He was known as Jesus. He was not known as the Christ. When he grew up, his ordinary name was Jesus. And so it would be very much like the title of President and Governor. And that is it is not Smith Governor but we say Governor Smith. So that the older phrase really is Christ Jesus. We could go and look at the confession of St. Peter. St. Peter said that Jesus was the Christ. And so that's the -- that's the older and -- I don't want to say the correct way. But very soon in the history of the church, perhaps a few years after the resurrection, the terms Christ and Jesus were used so often together that the significance of the name Christ was lost in certain situations. So now it's the more common to say that Jesus is the Christ. However, as we previously mentioned, by saying that Jesus is the Christ, we're not only making a statement about who Jesus is, we are also by that statement accepting the Old Testament as the word of God and that the Old Testament sets down the terms of who the Christ is. *** This text is being provided in a rough draft format. Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. ***